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Reality vs. Fantasy

03 Monday Sep 2018

Posted by Michael Kuehl in "traumatization", criminal sentences, CSA victimology, innate sex differences, embodiment, maleness and femaleness, John Derbyshire, Debra Lafave, Uncategorized, women as "pedophiles" and "child molesters", women as rapists, women sex offenders

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Joseph Epstein on the generic nature of teenage males:

I have a special regard for studies that tell us that the way to reform calls for changing human nature. This study, apparently, also demonstrates that there is probably no such thing as a bad bully, that behind every bully is a lonely, confused boy, frequently ill-adjusted….Boys, surely by now everyone knows, are brutes. Between the ages of 12 and 18, no matter what their other achievements, they are chiefly interested in sex and talk about sex, in devouring large quantities of unhealthy food, and in playing games at which they can outwit, triumph over, and otherwise humiliate their fellows. Boys exist in a near Hobbesian state of nature. Modern life isn’t, thank goodness, nasty, brutish, and short. But boys, given free rein, would make it so. (“B is for Boy -and Bullies,” WSJ, 4-30-2000)

Generally, this is true, but with many exceptions, of course, including myself, in regard to bullying. And I was not a brute nor are myriads of other males ages 12-18. And males in their 20s are just as “interested in” and obsessed with sex both in their fantasies and in practice, especially as adults from age 18 on and often as adolescent “minors,” an interest and obsession that last into their 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s and beyond with the aid of Viagra and similar drugs.

And in regard to brutes and bullies, most of what he says is just as true of most males in their 20s and many who are older and brutes and bullies even in their 40s and 50s and 60s and beyond, e.g, military officers and jail and prison guards and police and coaches and bosses and fathers.

And a large minority of males are not only bullies and brutes but low-IQ savages and predators and psychopaths, violent and recidivist criminal who commit aggravated assaults, muggings, armed robberies, burglaries, acts of vandalism, home invasions, torture, rape, gang-rape, murder, etc., especially as teenagers, or even younger, beginning at puberty, and in their 20s.

And not “everyone” knows that boys are “brutes” by nature. Not the authors of the study he mentions and not CSA victimologists, obviously, and virtually all feminists and left-liberals/”progressives,” who believe the actions of boys and men are purely or largely an effect of male socialization which can be mitigated or abolished by egalitarian and enlightened socialization. Nor MRAs, the misogynist lunatics of the soi-disant “men’s movement, who are obsessed with proving that males are as good or better than females and that females are as bad or worse than males and just as abusive and violent or potentially abusive and violent.

To CSA victimologists, biological men under age 16 or 18 (and even 18-year-olds if the women is a teacher or tutor like Abigail Simon) who are “chiefly interested in sex and talk about sex” and who often talk of wanting to  have sex with adult females -what heterosexual adolescent doesn’t fantasize about having sex with adult females, e.g., various celebrities, teachers, neighbors, strangers, their mother’s friends, etc.- must be protected from such women by draconian/Orwellian punishments, the enactment and enforcement of laws and policies to prevent the realization of their fantasies.  Or, for those few who “get lucky,” to end the intrigues, and the “victims” gratification, by crucifying the women who gave them the sex they craved and enjoyed.  Or to ruin their lives weeks or months or years after the affair or tryst ended when the “victims” are now adults but still “traumatized,” “scarred for life” by sex they assented to or initiated, knowingly and willingly, in some cases by force and/or threats, and enjoyed far more than the women who “raped” and “molested” them.

Realism and Sanity from “the Derb”: “Sex Equality Dogma taken to Lunatic Extremes”

27 Monday Nov 2017

Posted by Michael Kuehl in age of consent, criminal sentences, CSA victimology, Debra Lafave, John Derbyshire, Debra Lafave, statutory rape, Uncategorized, women as "pedophiles" and "child molesters", women as rapists

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Writes John Derbyshire:

O’Reilly implodes; Is Bill O’Reilly finally imploding? I am still a regular viewer of the Factor, but I find that more and more often I turn it off after ten minutes or so to do something more rewarding.

For one thing, there’s his bullying and grandstanding about child molesters. Now, I not a big fan of child molesters, having two kids of my own. The real monsters, though, are a minuscule minority of those who would be swept up by the kinds of laws O’Reilly is arguing for. The majority would be harmless, clueless, sad types who had yielded to, or been led on to, the momentary of some petty fumbling, then been ready to commit suicide when they realized what they had done. People like that need to be chastised and set straight, but they don’t need the magnum sentences they’d get under Sandra’s law, or whatever the hell thing it is O’Reilly is bellowing for.

Even weirder is O’Reilly’s  conviction that the seduction of 14-year-old boys by pretty 25-year-old teachers is just as bad –precisely the same! deserves the identical sentence!- as the contrary thing with a 14-year-old girl and a 25-year-old male teacher. This is sex equality dogma taken to lunatic extremes, as I’ve argued in a previous diary. I’d expect this kind of junk jurisprudence from some glaring feminist, but why am I getting it from O’Reilly? (johnderbyshire.com/opinion/diaries/2006-04)

Actually, the view that the two acts are precisely the same and deserve the identical sentence informs the laws of all 50 states and has done so for decades and has long been espoused by virtually all of our ruling-elites and governing-classes, left and right and center: politicians, the media, SVU detectives, prosecutors, Judges, etc. What JD describes as “weird” is now a sacred and inviolate dogma, and for the elites and a plurality of people they’ve poisoned and propagandized, to confute this absurdity is comparable to denying the holocaust or defending slavery and segregation.

It should also be noted that in most of these intrigues, the woman isn’t even guilty of seduction. Either the “victim” is the aggressor and initiator or their sexual union could be described as a mutual coming together.

And though adult women allowing biological men under statutory age to penetrate them in de facto consensual relationships is not “as bad” or precisely the same as adult men penetrating and often impregnating underage adolescent girls, I also oppose draconian and “magnum” sentences for adult men who have love affairs or mere dalliances with young women under statutory age if they are first-offenders with no history of violent or other mala in se criminality.

“I would have been thrilled….”

05 Thursday May 2016

Posted by Michael Kuehl in CSA victimology, Debra Lafave, John Derbyshire, Debra Lafave, Uncategorized, women as "pedophiles" and "child molesters", women as rapists, women sex offenders

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At least I’m not the only one still living in the real world as opposed to the fantasy world of CSA victimologists, the mass-media and its “experts” and pundits and “talking-heads,” MRAs, and the tens of millions of people they’ve brainwashed in full or essentially. Or terrorized and browbeat into silence or affected concurrence? John Derbyshire states the facts and notes the obvious and tells the truth as to how biological men ages 13-17 react to and experience acts of coitus and fellatio with adult women and especially those as ravishing and voluptuous as Debra Lafave:

Miscreant of the month: Debra Lafave, the 25-year-0ld Florida schoolteacher who was charged with sexual molestation for having got intimate with a 14-year-old student. Now, Miss Lafave did a wrong thing, no doubt, and should be…booted out of the teaching profession for good. Still, there was something distinctly odd about the news coverage of the story. What was odd was, the constant implication -I don’t recall anyone having the nerve to say it out loud, but it was there in all the coverage, just under the surface -that this was just like a 25-year-old male teacher doing the same thing to a 14-year-old female student.

Well, I’m sorry, but it isn’t. Not only is the Lafave case  not just like that, it isn’t anything like that. Ms. Lafave is a very pretty young woman. I was a 14-year-old boy myself once. It was a while ago, but I can still remember what it felt like. I would have been thrilled to be seduced by Ms. Lafave, and I would have been the envy of my peers. I would go so far to say that it is the sweetest dream of every red-blooded 14-year-old boy to be seduced by an attractive older woman.

That doesn’t make Ms. Lafave’s actions right, of course, and I am not apologizing for her. It does, though, at least in my mind, cast deep suspicion on claims by (among others) the boy’s parents that he was “traumatized” by the experience. Believe me, gentle reader, there are 14-year-old boys all over America yearning to be so “traumatized.”

That we use the same words -“assault,” “molestation,” even “rape”- for the advances made by a 25-year-old on a 14-year-old male, as we would use for similar advances by a 25-year-old male on a 14-year-0ld female, just shows what a mess we have got ourselves into on the sexual-equality front. Men are not women, and women are not men. That is, of course, a politically-incorrect statement. Gaze on it while you can: soon it will be illegal to utter it. (John Derbyshire, NRO Diary, March 2006.)

One should note that in most of these cases the woman isn’t even guilty of seduction. Either the “victim” was the aggressor and initiator or their sexual union could be described as a mutual coming together, more spontaneous than calculating for both partners.

 

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